are we are we i'm still here hello hello hey what happened what do they do when you're done do they just [disconnect] you well i just got disconnected i think his he's got a kid there it's clinton right clint okay is it clint right um i'm pretty serious it's a serious hobby i guess um i'd like more but yeah i'm getting up there i just have a used table saw right now i'm looking at getting a better one but it's just an old sears [craftsman] uh mostly fine woodworking furniture type stuff um enjoy the children's toys i like making those so it's basically smaller stuff have you done much big stuff right you do kitchen cabinets and stuff uh_huh finish finish carpentry or uh_huh no yeah i got a i just finished a project one of those um [swinging] [cradles] and i turned all the [spindles] for that and that took a long time but it was pretty fun yeah oak that's really hard to turn but yeah had to fill a lot of chip marks up but it really chips really easy do you work with oak much not at all uh_huh yeah that's i tried it for a job once and it's just not for me i like it as a hobby more boy it sure is i just enjoy making gifts and doing small stuff on the side yeah yeah once in a while i'll sell some um custom custom type wood work if they're willing to pay the price now i used to get ripped off all the time because i spent way too much time on them um i'm starting to i that's what i did for a job one summer i made some cabinets for a junior high school and but i haven't done a lot of them i use oak face frames and then just plywood for the box yeah but just on the outside where it shows yeah just slip it into a [groove] that you make on the face frame and then you can just slip that in there it's a lot cheaper of course quarter inch and three quarter inch aren't much cheaper than each other of plywood but yeah just for to the plywood yeah i just finish sand it just like with one fifty and then you can finish it up so um just the garage i wish i had a [workshop] but the stuff i do i i don't need a lot of room for it uh she puts up with me buying the tools she likes me wood working but getting the equipment i want sure is taken a lot of years i started when i was about sixteen buying my own equipment and i only need a few more things like a [joiner] i'd like to have and small some smaller things oh yeah yeah i just bought a a [sprayer] to finish my project um a high volume low pressure [sprayer] it's a high volume low pressure they're new [sprayers] that are coming out really little over spray it's air it only sprays with three p s i but uh the [cubic] feet per minute of air flow is up to ninety and so that's what that's what gives you your [thrust] of your paint um do you do it was five hundred bucks my most recent woodworking project was i made an oak trash can it's the new thing around here is people want trash cans which match their kitchen cabinets so and i'm if the definition of a professional means you get paid for it then i am one yeah i really am in the [telecommunications] business but you know one has to do what you can do to make a buck i got uh well your basic stuff your radial arm your table your drill press what i don't do is i don't i don't turn yeah you know you know i build boxes as people say uh_huh oh yeah i am i don't get either one i look through them at the uh at the [newsstand] and buy them on occasion i get a a newspaper called the [workshop] news and i get a uh um let's see i can't read the side of it uh [woodsmith] i think it's called it's a you know a monthly sort of brown paper type of type of thing oh yeah oh i've looked through both of them you can just only afford to subscribe to so many there's an