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Re: National Tournament Format



I agree somewhat. I think we ought to use a system somewhat like NFL.
At the end of 8 prelims, which everybody gets, all teams with 4 or more 
losses are eliminated.
You then hold elimination round l with reverse power matching and 
breaking brackets for teams from the same school meeting. Team l meets 
team 84, team 2 meets 83, team 3 meet 82 etc., teams flipping for sides 
or reversing sides if they have previously met. There are 3 judges in 
each round. At the end of the round teams with 4 or more losses from the 
8 prelims and this lst elim round are eliminated. I figure probably 40-50 
teams are left. 
In elimination round 2 you have a straight power match team l against 
team 2 team 3 against 4 team 5 against 6 etc. except with side 
constraints with teams switching sides from elimination rd I (if this is 
possible might be uneven number of teams on sides after teams with 4 or 
more losses eliminated after elimination rd I Again break brackets for 
teams from the same school meeting. Again switch sides if teams have 
previously met. Again 3 judges. Eliminate teams with 4 losses after this 
rd considering again prelims and now 2 elimination rds. I think 20-30 
teams would be left.
In elimination round 3 you have team l meet team 30 team 2 meet 29 team 3 
meet 28 etc Teams can be on either side flipping for sides unless they 
have met previously and I would again break brackets to avoid teams from 
the same school meeting. Again there are 3 judges and teams with a 
cumulative 4 losses at the end of this rd are eliminated. I figure l0-l6 
teams are left.
IN elimination round 4 you have straight power matching switching sides 
for side constraints in so far as possible and switching sides if teams 
have previously met. There are 3 judgtes and teams with cumulative 4 
losses from prelims and elims are eliminated after this rd. I figure 5-8 
teams are left.
In elimination round 5 you have reverse power with team l meeting team 8 
team 2 meeting 7  team 3 meeting 6 etc. with 3 judges flipping for sides 
unless switching sides because previously met. Teams with 4 losses are 
eliminated and you are left with 4-5 teams.
ETC. ETC.
Problems what to do if uneven number of teams have leff than 4 losses. Do 
you give bye to top team?
When and if do you stop breaking brackets to avoid teams from the same 
school meeting?
What happens in rounds with side constraints if you have an  uneven 
number of teams on either Aff or Neg which you would?
Would you really eliminate all teams except l-2 after 6 elimination 
rounds in this pattern? I think so but am not sure.
This kind of tournament guarantees everyone 8 rds of good participation. 
It does require a few extra judges for elimination rounds l and 2 but is 
pretty much like now from there on in. 
This kind of tournament ensures a true champion because no one loses on 
just one round. You have to lose 4 to be eliminated. It controls for 
losing on one side because it keeps equalizing for sides. It controls for 
bad luck judging because you have to lose 4.
Bill DeForeest and I have talked about this and I have chatted over the 
years to others about this idea. I too would ask what others think and 
what they would feel about this kind of tournament.
I know there are other technical problems and kinkds with the above 
suggestion but I didn't work them out because I wanted to throw this out 
as a trial ballon.
Steve Hunt 

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