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Re: Citeable ?

In his last message yuval wrote:

>Now don't get me wrong, but sometimes two cents are better than a 

>dollar.  Not in this case.  Your argument that just because you don't 

>have a network or a certain system which enables others to get more 

  >information is Sooooooooo wrong.  First of all when i attended rockland 

>community college last year we didn't have nexis lexis and we hardly have 

>the amount of books which you or other schools have.  Does that mean that 

>you should not be allowed to use what we don't have?  If that is the case 

>than debate rounds would consist of the same meterial all the time.  

>However when you hear that someone has a piece of eve. which you don't 

>have, you would go out and search for that article which increases the 

>overall education of debate.


I don't think that my points are soooo wrong in this case.  First, yuval neglected to focus  
on the end of point #1 where I pointed out that through the O.C.L.C. network better known  
as interlibrary loan network, academic schools and special libraries are interconnected all  
across the country.  This networking system is pledged to provide periodicals and books  
to those schools who are having trouble locating the sources in the schools in their area.   
In most cases, the service costs about one dollar per book and somewhere around five  
cents per page for the copy of the article that you request.  Most of the libraries on this  
network allow a book to be loaned for a full month.  So even though Rockland Community  
College may not have the same amount of books as Allegheny....they can request the  
books that Allegheny has through this system....or through the public library in their area.   
	Now, the difference between not having a periodical that is in print and one that is  
only found through an electronic subscription is that I cannot go into a public library or  
another academic library and make copies of the requested information.  How many  
schools allow non-students to punch into their computer systems?  Allegheny doesn't,  
you have to have an account on the NeXT system in order to access any of the  
information on the NeXT.  So what happens if Cornell uses a piece of evidence that is  
from a purely electronic magazine?  How can I access that information?  I can't go to  
Cornell and access the information, or am I wrong on that point?  It doesn't matter how  
ambitious I might be...if I am denied access through my own school's account and I am  
denied access through the other academic institutions and local libraries do not have  
access to these electronic subscriptions than I do not think that they should qualify as  
"available to the public domain."

P.S. Yuvall, Allegheny doesn't have lexus either...
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