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Re: sour grapes and the final frontier



Actually, I liked the cfr idea better than space or treaties, too.  
The main disagreement I have with Steve (and some others) who have 
posted lies in the area of using the listserves to determine 
community consensus.  They do no such thing.  A relatively small 
minority of our community is actually represented on the listserves.  
I know others have pointed this out; has anyone done any sort of 
simple stats on the number of people who have posted on the listserve 
(not the total number of posts; some of us post way too much :-) )
versus the total number of participants in the activity?

Terry West
Southern Utah

> Date sent:      Fri, 2 May 1997 16:03:58 -0500 (CDT)
> Send reply to:  sd0924@broncho.ucok.edu
> From:           Steven Donald <sd0924@broncho.ucok.edu>
> To:             Issues concerning CEDA Debate  <CEDA-L@cornell.edu>
> Subject:        sour grapes and the final frontier
> Originally to:  Issues concerning CEDA Debate <CEDA-L@cornell.edu>,
>                 National Debate Tournament <NDT-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>

> 
> Well, the CFR topic is offically dead, and this will probrably (not 
> making any promises) be my last post on the issue.  My question is this:  
> how seriously did the topic committe consider 1)recency of topic, 2) 
> interest by the community, as judged by the discussion on both 
> listserves, 3) salience of issue to individuals, 4) topic ground?
> 
> I know that 4 of the 5 topics meet all of this criteria, but ummmmmm, 
> 
> SPACE??????? No one has said a SINGLE word about that on any listserves, 
> since about a week after the topic paper was written, and that was over a 
> month ago.  Also, it's more recent that campaign reform?  And it 
> personally effects the debaters more than how our government is being run 
> in what way? And there is better limits, counterplan ground, and disad 
> debate on that topic than CFR?  Can you honestly think there is more 
> interest by the community in that issue than CFR?---remember Matt's straw 
> poll...it ranked close to last.
> 
> If the topic committee decided all of this through their own analysis, 
> research, and personal opinions, I suppose that's fine, but how much did 
> you pay attention to what people were saying about each topic on the 
> listserves?
> 
> Frustrated and Confused,
> 
> Steven Donald
> UCO Debate
> 


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