Re: Cards by debate coaches.

[asnider@zoo.uvm.edu (Alfred C. Snider)]

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>To:Heather L Walters <hwalters@umabnet.ab.umd.edu>
>From:asnider@zoo.uvm.edu (Alfred C. Snider)
>Subject:Re: Cards by debate coaches.
>
>Martin says:
>
>>   Third it seems to me to steal his idea by reading the analysis without
>>duly quoting him is plagarism. Why not read all of our evidence without
>>quotes, after all it is the support that is important right? I do not
>>think so. Part of the qualification of the author goes to the legitimacy
>>of the support.
>
>I agree that if we are going to quote directly from Zarefsky we should
>identify his ideas. However, every time we paraphrase (in public
>discussion) an idea that we learned from someone else we need not identify
>who it came from (else all our time would be spent in attribution of
>ideas).
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>One needs to remember that my original point is that debate theory, where
>we are teaching people to frame arguments and controversies, may be a
>special situation in this regard.
>
>I wrote:
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>"This may be a special situation. It seems somehow strange to say that "T
>is a voter because I have a card without a reason from a debate coach who
>says it is." While I respect Dr. Berube's position that citing "authority"
>is a form of "warrant" I somehow wonder about using that warrant in this
>decision context -- the debate itself."
>
>Do you feel that the debate round is a special situation, where we would
>like students to develop skills in determining procedures, so that
>evidence from coaches about that procedure is not as valuable?
>
>The NEW AMERICAN on climate is not what I am talking about. Nor do I find
>that evidence very persuasive after even a curcory analysis by the
>debaters, by the way.
>
>Tuna

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