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answering Larson
Howdy Professor Larson!!! I respect Professor Gary Larson tremendously. He
ain't right about the research I post, though. Well, the nasty bits are
toward the end if you're just browsing for cheap thrills.
He says that 250 wpm "might not square with competitive norms."
Well, 250 wpm is the optimal comprehension rate for folks not previously
exposed to speedy speech. The moral to draw is that debaters ought to slow
down for lay audiences and critics (Yes, you ought to say that you heard
that HERE first). Debate audiences and critics usually prefer and
comprehend optimally at much higher rates (they're "trained") so folks ought
to adapt appropriately. Also, comprehension isn't the only valid
pedagogical, strategic, or entertainment concern (some mis-comprehension is
usually a nice touch). As far as being able to merely REMEMBER the speech,
for example, the final round was cozy and pokey. Professors Wingfield,
Poon, Lombardi, and Lowe report in the 1985 Journal of Gerontology that:
"Both our young and elderly participants showed excellent recall for five-
and eight-word normal sentences even when speech rates reached a level of
425 wpm, more than twice the rate at which normal conversation is ordinarily
heard." (p583)
He says that training gets folks to 275 wpm, still too slow for The Buzz.
(although plenty for The Biz if Lemoine's retirement conversion is to be
believed - Dave, don't let him slow her down!)
Well, the Army training and exposure studies were for relatively brief
periods of time (less than 24 total exposure hours at the most), used army
personnel (no offense to the folks at the USMA), and essentially consisted
of giving extra leave time for anyone who did better faster. Debaters and
critics get much longer exposures from a greater variety of sources over a
longer period of time, are usually more highly motivated to learn, ain't
enlisted as targets, and have topic familiarity, flowing, and debater
personal attention to aid in "training." No research to cite that says
debate folks do better, but the research certainly does not establish 275
wpm as the best that we can be. The Foulke remarks about blind college
students ONLY reports PREFERRED rates of speech, not the rates at which they
comprehend optimally - we can only guess what that is - I guess that it is
786 wpm.
He says that compressed speech is "cleaner" than speedy speech.
Well, I think that he is making this up.
1) To my knowledge there haven't been any studies which say this (I have
looked) and Professor Larson follows the tradition of not citing any sources
at all. Almost no one has compared naturally speedy speech against
compressed speech with respect to comprehensibility. Certainly no one has
compared the speedy speech of debaters (TRAINED to be speedy AND
comprehensible) to compressed speech with respect to comprehensibility.
That means he is just making it up. What research we have is cautious but
warns against the LOWER QUALITY OF COMPRESSED SPEECH. Professors Stine,
Wingfield, and Poon, for example, note in their 1986 article entitled "How
Much and How Fast: Rapid Processing of Spoken Language in Later Adulthood"
in the journal Psychology and Aging: "The
extent to which the processing rate differences were exacerbated by a loss
of signal richness associated with time compression is important, especially
in the context of auditory discrimination deficits that often accompany
normal aging (Corso, 1984). In general, older adults react to naturally
spoken rapid speech in a similar way to artificially time-compressed speech
of equivalent speech rates (Schmitt & Carroll, 1985), but the possibility of
multiple sources of a processing deficit must be kept in mind." (p306)
2) The "explanation" of why compressed speech is "cleaner" is based on a
misunderstanding of compression. Compression doesn't "reduce space between
phonetic segments." That sounds like it just gets rid of empty and useless
silence. What happens is that a reading is taped at normal speed and the
tape is played back at a multiplied speed: but, because that would be
incomprehensible (you know what a tape at double speed sounds like - a high
pitched squeal), RANDOMLY selected portions of the tape are omitted at
playback which lowers the pitch of playback to normal frequencies. Now, how
randomly skipping parts of a recorded text (phonemes, segments, whatever
happens to be on that bit of tape) is supposed to be "cleaner" than merely
saying the whole text quickly and at a normal pitch, I have no idea - that
is what is referred to above as a loss of "signal richness." Also, remember
that the faster the compressed speech, the more has to be randomly selected
out and the more information is lost. Professors Stine, Wingfield, and Poon
briefly explain how a Lexicon Varispeech II compressor/expander (state o'
the art tech) does it: "... small segments (20 ms in length) are
periodically deleted, and the remaining segments are abutted in time. The
result is speech reproduced in less than normal time, but without
substantial distortion in pitch or quality that would, for example,
accompany tape-recorder playback at faster than normal speed. The degree of
time compression is controlled by the frequency with which tape segments are
deleted." (p305). Now, the AmBiChron speech processor (the old tech)
sounds even worse than the Lexicon Varispeech II. Gade et al explain in
Human Learning of 1984: "Although no entire speech sound is likely to be
lost completely because the interval is generally shorter than any single
speech sound, some critical features may at times be deleted. Although
pitch-normalized output tends to preserve phrasings, stress, and pauses in
the original speech record, increases above twice the normal speed tend to
produce some distortions." (p97)
3) No research has been done on this, but these are my ad-hoc,
make-it-up-as-you-go, "if there's no ev say it anyway - they might believe
you", Top Ten Reasons Debaters Are More Comprehensible Than The Lexicon
Varispeech II at high rates of speech: 1) eye contact, facial expression,
gestures, and in-person presence 2) natural adjustment of pitch without loss
of signal richness 3) they do the
Northwestern/Pittsburgh/Madsen/Dauber/Korcok/Devereaux/John Dean the King
"speaking" exercises better than the tape recorder does them 4) by looking
at their critic they get a clue about incomprehension and repeat, redund,
recast, or explain 5) they train, practice, and perfect the specific arts of
speedy speech 6) debate critics try harder to understand debaters than they
do Varispeech IIs 7) they intelligently hilite cards to get rid of confusing
verbiage and obfuscating words 8) they do comprehension tricks unknown to
tape recorders like start slow for the first 15 seconds, slow down for the
payoff sentences, lower their pitch more for the good bits, etc. 9) they
tell stories, use tags, refer to the flow, use the extensive contextual
knowledge of the critics, etc. to remain comprehensible while doing THE BUZZ
and 10) just because.
Professor Larson then says a number of true and important things about the
importance of well-articulated speech at any speed. I agree. Remember, I
debated my senior year with Kevin O'Leary. His cross-ex answers were
invariably "mmmphnblmbd" -- on the rare occasion that someone asked him to
stop mumbling and to clarify he wouold look up, look right at the critic,
get the hair out of his eyes, and say "mmphphnblnblmbd." Professor Stepp
loved it and several times rewarded it with 20 speaker points - she liked ME
(I got 28s and 29s). Although John Dean and Bill Boggs used to get 30s from
her - pissed me off...
:( michael korcok :)
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