Re: extending eligibility

[FPIRIZAR@VPA.syr.edu]

Glenn,

I don't think you would have that problem for a few reasons.  First of 
all, I'm not quite sure how much progress debaters make between there 
fourth and fifth year.  There has to be a point where the increase in 
proficiency becomes negligible.  Secondly, there are other elements that 
contribute to even greater and more tangible forms of inequity.  
Monetary resources, tenure-track positions, endowments,  scholarships, 
lexis access, a good library, Assistant Coaches, GTA's, Professional 
Researchers, on-site research capabilities at tournaments, recruiting, 
supportive administrations, etc...  All of these things create an 
imbalance much greater and more pervasive (to some I guess) than 
allowing some students to compete for a fifth year so why do we allow 
ALL of the other things I've mentioned to exist.  I think the fifth year 
of eligibility is negligible at best.  Lastly, I don't think I'm out of 
line by saying this but I'm sure the Pudget Sound program looks to 
compete with schools of like resources and measures its success against 
schools of like resources.  I don't think the fifth year issue is an 
issue to tip the scales.  Just my .02 cents worth.

Frank Irizarry
Syracuse Debate



Date:          Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:32:06 -0700
Reply-to:      gkuper@ups.edu
From:          Glenn Kuper <gkuper@ups.edu>
To:            Issues concerning CEDA Debate  <CEDA-L@cornell.edu>
Subject:       extending eligibility
X-To:          ceda-l@cornell.edu

One thought I had about extending eligibility was the effect it might 
have
on private/liberal arts/undergrad only insitutions.  I know here at 
Puget
Sound very few (if any) students attend for over four years.  I believe 
all
the degrees are designed for four years, and it is so damn expensive 
that no
one would choose to extend their time here.  Also, there are very very 
few
grad programs (OT/PT and Ed.).  I expect it is similar at other schools 
like
ours.  Would we be at a disadvantage because we would never have a five 
year
debater?  I suspect that if students keep getting better as they 
progress
throughout their career we would always end up a year behind.  Just a 
thought.

Glenn Kuper
U of puget Sound
 


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