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Re: Re power and dominance
How is it arbitray to say to a team that you don't want to be yelled out
and would like to be able to complete your sentence? It seems that you
are entending censorship awfully far to say that the need for common
courtesy is arbitrary. In my eyes, this discussion isn't really about
teams who may or may not argue offensive arguments, or teams who ask
polite questions to a judge about issues in the round, it is about teams
who lose there temper time and time again and yell at critics because
they think that they have somehow been wronged. It is easy to say to a
judge that they can just get up and leave, but it is not as easy to do
that when you are sitting in a chair trying to explain your decision
because you feel that you have a responsiblity as a critic to justify the
way you voted and the competitors start to attack you AND even if you can
leave that doesn't do anything to signal to the competitors that there
behavior is inappropriate. At best, it is a reactive way to deal with
the situation whereas if you inform debaters that you will dock
there points or you will take some other action if they are rude then
that may check there behavior. >
> believe, is that judges experience a sense of vulnerability, despite the
> authority of their position in a debate or the debate community. (Of course,
> this is a false vulnerability). Judges feel vulnerable and use any available
> tool to lash out at students, an obvious source of their inadequacy and
> frustration.
I don't think this is it at all. I feel comfortable in saying that most
of the critics that I know don't "lash out at students as an obvious
sources of their inadequacy" in fact I don't think that most judges are
inadequate/incompetent to make a good decision in the majority of debate
rounds. This assertion once again begs the question of what I hope the
point of this disccusion is. How can we as a community act in a
proactive fashion to dissuade competitors and coaches from using
power/ dominance as either a strategy to intimidate judges or as
a reaction to a decision that they disagree with. Wanting to
deal with this doesn't mean that judges feel inadequate, that
they are unable to make good decisions, that they are petty and
want to exert power over the debators or that they are somehow
responsible for causing debators to act in an overly aggressive
fashion. I won't speak for all critics, but for the most part
I don't think that any of these things are true for the majority
of the critics in the community.
Leah Castella
Lewis and Clark College
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