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Bear and his cold pooridge


>>I'll handle this piece by piece:
>
>Yuri's on the run, now! Look, he's resorting to his most native 
state - cheap line-by-line ad homs. It may have worked in the old 
days of CEDA, but....... 

Rasputin was smeared less. If you "call it like you see it,"  
why do you make excuses about denying the grudge match? You say you 
turned down Pace because of tensions between them and you. Since 
you also say you get along with slusher and james, why does the 
reason cross over? No concerns about hostility with SIU, so who's 
avoiding the issue with ad homs? Answer that, straight shooter...


>With me, it's simple. 

I don't think anyone but you has ever said that, Bear.


>I'm up front about my personality quirks.

Some things are hard to hide.

<I pay my
>bets.

Stop hiding behind the red herring. Or should I say red Tuna. 
Chicken of the Sea, perhaps? Nationals, all bets are due. And while 
I have not sought to deny Weber's outstanding record against SIU 
this year, you haven't been knockin' down SIU doors with the beers 
you owe us. 


< I call it as I see it, despite being horribly tunnel-sighted.

Don't take the fun out of this by indicting yourself, Bear.


< You, on
>the other hand, seem to envision yourself as some sort of 
intellectual
>"sprite" that can shit-talk everyone to everyone else. 

SO, I don't play favorites, and I'll "shit-talk" to anyone I think 
deserves it. Notice I'm spending a lot of time on the -L with you, 
Bear. 

Even backwoods Texas
>mojo can only go so far.

You have no idea. 

> < Weber chose to decline.
> 
> > suprise!
>
>No more "suprising" than SIU's consistent defeats. Hey, and 
doesn't that
>contradict your early admission about a planned match at SIU's 
tournament?

Nice try. What are you Rush Limbaugh? My only admission, which you 
seem destined to obsfucate is that WEBER CHALLENGED SIU at the SIU 
tournament, and they were supposed to RESOLVE it at Heart, in the 
grudge match, but YOU TURNED IT DOWN. You only prove my point. If 
you are so secure in your victories why not have a round with a 
mutually preferred judge? Nothing wrong with losing as long as you 
come back strong. Weber seems to want to take the marbles they've 
won and go home. Your choice. 

 
> < Regardless of KU's intent, we didn't want to continue a series 
> that seemed to persistently cause an uncomfortable tension. 
>> My impression is that salukis and weber debaters get along fine. 
> 
>Duh! Reading comprehension is a horrible responsibility. The 
tension I described was in the Pace-Weber rounds. Remember? It was 
the reason we chose to decline the grudge requested from Pace. Of 
course, we get along with the Salukis....

Come into my web, said the spider to the fly. You seems to have 
brilliantly taken out your own reason for turning down the SIU 
grudge match, Bear. Thank You very much. Since I'm such a nasty 
"sprite," maybe you can e-mail yourself from your different 
accounts and take out your own arguments, and we can just watch. 



>Well, to be frank, we probably should've taken you up on this one. 
<It would've been really SWEET to have beat both your teams at 
<Heart.

Cowards die a thousand deaths...

< We did not because it seemed, at the time, the consistent <means 
of handling our earlier declined-request from Pace. 

Alas, an all-together unpersuasive argument why you turned down the 
grudge match. It seems from your Pace answers and your conversation 
with Josh Hoe, that you felt like you didn't owe Pace diddly. In 
fact you said you don't "OWE" them anything. Why the concern with 
consistency for a team you don't give a hoot about? Also, why isn't 
your "tensions" front a reason to reject Pace and accept SIU's 
grudge match?

<If your debaters refuse to face reality, it's not my fault....

Reality bites. Besides it seems reality is that one tournament a 
year allow the settling of disputes of this sort. SIU challenged 
Weber and you declined. Like I said, reality bites.


>We approached our season as a "challenge" to youse guys. The 
>ecord swamps any of your attempts at shit-talkin'. Notice folks: 
>He doesn't deny the record.

Despite your Enquirer-like indicts, in my original post to Heart, 
and since then, I purposely acknowledged Weber's lopsided record 
with SIU this year. That way it is obvious to everyone that the 
storm troopers from Weber had nothing to fear but...well the queasy 
stomachs and the weak knees.

>BTW, let me send my hearty congrats to SIU RS for making it to 
>octs at Heart. These guys are nice people, good debaters, and even 
>a dog deserves a bone every once in a while. 

Bear really is a big softy. Slusher and James appreciate your 
congrats, and send congrats to BOTH Weber teams that cleared, as do 
I.


>Another diversionary tactic from CEDA's own Rasputin. The bets 
were for six packs. You buy a lot of six-packs in bars? Gee, when 
the bets were made we made specific plans about some dogs wandering 
over to the Weber bash. I guess next time you bet, we need to make 
you sign a delivery contract lest you infinitely regress.
>

Indeed, Salukis have been known to order beers six at a time, in a 
bar even! I forgot that would be hard for you to imagine, Bear. 
Maybe I come drag you out of your hotel room, so you can see how 
the rest of the world is socialized.

>
>> As for kickin' the pupsters from C-Dale, we waited for 
conformation of the grudge match...I guess ya'll stopped for lunch 
on your way to the tournament. A lil' KFC? If I can venture a 
guess? I prefer Original recipe myself. 

>Makes sense. Original recipe is greasier. I hope that's not your 
best anti-Kentucky jibe.

Why would I make an anti-Kentucky jibe? Original recipe is SPICIER. 
So all I'm saying is that ya'll must have eaten EXTRA CRISPY 
CHICKEN that day. 


>You lie, given the rash of backchanneled shit talking between you 
>and I that night. You must be getting my full posts now, right?

Bear, you know I wasn't getting your full posts. Since this is all 
on the -L I get all your text, Bear. And I did get e-mail from you, 
but I didn't know you were turning the match down until later. I 
had my chicken suit on and the computer screen was kinda hard to 
read.


> We didn't "conform" because we wanted Roland and Slusher to have 
>a chance to clear. We really like you guys, and it really hurts to 
>see you all roll over the way you do. Hey, why not try some new 
>combinations?

And you call me a liar. This looks like an ad hom, and it 
contradicts your excuses above. As for the new combinations, you've 
convinced me. Make it half CRISPY and half ORIGINAL. 


 Watch it, Yuri, I
>think there's some grease drippin from your chin. Oh, you say 
that's a
>beard....

It's foam, in anticipation of when Slusher and Roland get ahold of 
Tye and Danny.

>< Oh yeah, it's 16-2 after Heart, right?
>Alas, you had the chance to put this to rest and make it 17-2, but 
> Slusher and Roland will have to wait for another day. Besides 
your excuse for declining Pace's challenge was about how grueling 
Heart was going to be, right? So if we're so easy, why'd you 
decline?
> 
>See multiple stories above. The Pace justification was not over 
"grueling" but over escalating tension. Reading and spelling were 
>afterthoughts in your educational hierarchy, right?

Nope, just giving you enough rope to hang yourself. As pointed out 
above, you weren't worried about SIU/WEBER hostility, now you add 
you weren't worried about starting the tournament with a "grueling" 
grudge match....what was your excuse again? 

> Just trying to pin you down, you welsher. How about a tatoo 
proclaiming
>the superiority of the winning school?

If you think I'll bet a tatoo on Monkeyboy, you're crazier than I 
thought. And you scare me. As for the other team, we'll wait for 
random luck to keep you from ducking out. 


>Counterplan: Beer in bear's room. Net benefit: I think I'll win 
this
>argument.

conceed.


> <Your new alias seems fitting.
> >> If you prefer you can call me Foghorn Leghorn.
> >I was thinking of Dennis-the-Menace. 

And you, of course, could be Mr. Wilson...


> < People living in glass doghouses shouldn't throw rocks....
> >> Glass doghouses really are safer than chicken coops. 
>>Gee, you sound like someone making an assessment borne of years 
>of experience. 

Nope, I only get CHICKEN at the drive-thru, not once I get where 
I'm going. 

> Be careful, success requires one to differentiate the dream from 
the reality.

 Did you read that somewhere? About success, I mean.  
 
>Suggesting Yuri switch to a canine version of KFC,

I promise i'll try to avoid CHICKENS in the future, Bear. And 
people say Chicken is healthy?


								Conrad Dobler
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