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Re: korcok and Merger

> I really hate to agree with korcok on anything, but I think he is correct
> about making sure that this coop thing is done correctly.  The only thing I
> think should occur is that Ceda Nationals should occur last.  To hell
> w/octos for invites to the NDT.  Like mike said, set up some system to
> determine bids for all on an open playing field.

I'm unclear why the invites persay "demean" CEDA?  These arguments seem 
inconsistent.  If the open tournament must be last, must be treated as 
the most prestigious and nothing can be done to hurt it, they why the 
concern about guaranteeing slots for CEDA participants to the NDT.  
Moreover, the suggestion to offer 16 invites seems to me like an added 
incentive for more teams to attend CEDA nats, on top of all the reasons 
listed below.  

> 
> My concern is that ceda Nats will be hurt.  It is massive and crazy, and
> everyone under the sun is there, and it is winner take all, and it is
> unique.  Let NDT occur first, and they can come if they want an dI think
> they will.  But to have Ceda Nats, and then the NDT seems to demean it for
> me.  We say here is our big crazy monstrosity, and then here you can try adn
> qualify for the real deal.  that is just my perspective.
> 
That's fine.  I think that either way this is a power struggle that shouldn't
derail what we are trying to do.  I seriously have my doubts that the NDT 
community is going to cave on changing the way bids are done for a 
tournament that would just be the warmup for the "real deal." (gotta 
believe that this cuts both ways).  I guess that I think the only 
political solution to this is to fight for both as being important, even 
if for different reasons.  If done correctly, I think that the top teams 
will want to do both and win both.  

> Breaking down the NDT workshop is also a good point, it would be especially
> helpfull in bringing the debaters together.  At the MSU camp, I got to work
> with Chris Lavigne and Ron Stevenson , and get insight into the NDT, and
> share a little about Ceda with them, and then lie about all the times we got
> screwed and how good we were :-)
> 
> Bottom Line, this worth doing, but let's make sure it is the correct first
> step, and not the last step backwards.
> 
> Sean
> 
> P.S.  Anyone that flames me will be actively denounced as a Buchananite. ;-)
> 
>
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