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Re: False claims about Korcok

becky

maybe he doesn't write stuff for you derek; yeah, maybe he liked me 
better:) 
Mark West wrote:
> 
> "Korcok hasn't written a theory block in his life..."
> 
> This false claim unfortunately obscures some of the juicier bits I recall
> from Mike's wealth of contributions to the activity.  While "fuzzy sets"
> was a personal favorite, he is especially noteworthy for his unmasking
> of various "standards" blips, such as the oft-grunted subpoint called
> "grammar."  Mike, will you once again entertain and educate us with your
> lively paragraph of rhythmic support for the answer, "which grammar?"
> (circa Fall, 1988)
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Sun, 21 Apr 1996, Derek Shaffer wrote:
> 
> > I excell at talking shit as well as talking to it, but am currently placing
> > a heavy emphasis on word economy.  Korcok hasn't written a theory block in
> > his life, I'll happily accept any credit or blame as appropriate.  Crafty
> > perms are the secret to success on the aff; I offer no apologies for having
> > made frequent use of such.  Anarchy wasn't a strategic ploy, just part of
> > Cornell's vigilant pursuit of truth, justice, and good government.  Corn
> > Doggy and Trice didn't win many against us this year, but the one they
> > snagged in doubles definitely counted.  How'd things work out after
> > that?... Oh.  The examples of disputes over the nature of dispostionality
> > are ubiquitous.  I recall individual teams from Kansas State, UMKC and
> > Western Washington each having distinct understandings of the term that
> > differed in important ways so that we then had to expend a great deal of
> > time and energy nailing each one down in cross x.  Those specific notions
> > of dispositionality had to be taken into account in formulating specific
> > abuse arguments and determining our aff strategy.  The Fonzie reference is
> > really quite flattering if not entirely applicable (I think he eventually
> > found a job, although I do, in all fariness, own a comparable leather
> > jacket), but I wonder if that would require Korcok serving as Mr. C.  I see
> > Ber Man as more of a Richie than a Chachie, Mav's a lock for Potsy, and
> > Chud's got just enough of a michievous streak to qualify as Ralph.  That
> > still leaves you playing the banjo and doing all sorts of unmentionable
> > stuff in some late night TV movie...
> > I suggest we take our mutual rants backchannel, if only so that the CEDA-L
> > can remain a bastion of academic integrity and good grace.  Peace.
> >
> >  - D
> >
> > Sean went and vomited all over your computer screen.  It looked something
> > like this:
> >
> > >Well here we go.  Hope you are better at shit talking than debate or it will be
> > >a double octos nightmre.  Get out now, while you still can.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll be sticking around a few
> > >> more years to exploit my elibility to the fullest.  Not so.
> > >
> > >Oh Don't punish the community with the fact that your bright star will no
> > >longer be around.  Please take it back.  Where else would we have a shining
> > >example of how to win rounds on our COrnell Blocked out CONDITIONALITY GOOD
> > >points (i refuse to say you ever made an argument)
> > >
> > >
> > >> of conscious choice.  I did then, and still do believe that counterplans
> > >> are entirely conditional without exception.
> > >
> > >Of Course.  You wouldn't want to risk having someone run turns to the infamous
> > >Anarchy Counterplan.  I guess it is easier to read blocked out theory points as
> > >compared to having to compare evidence or impact turns.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I don't need three damn counterexamples in response to your meager
> > >> offerings.
> > >
> > >Well hell no, then you would have to make an argument instead of hiding behind
> > >your "superior intellect El Whopo".  Let's remeber folks that stud boy asked
> > >for pertinent examples, yet has no counter examples to offer.  Not even in all
> > >the crappy rounds he caused.
> > >
> > >  All my claims are conditional--for explanation, see above.  If
> > >> you and Foote proved suffiently bold to straight turn Gonzaga's NATO
> > >> counterplans, I have every confidence that it was because of the severe
> > >> difficulties you both enountered with regards to the pronunication, and,
> > >> or, conceptualization of the term "permutation" rather than as a result of
> > >> any strategic inklings you may have had.
> > >
> > >Yeah Derek, it is much harder to say perm "We guarantee the planis done so
> > >Japan will do the plan and our actor sits on its asss as specified by the plan
> > >text"  As opposed to doing research (didn't you do anything in Oxford) and
> > >finding turns to the same ol cplan.
> > >
> > >>   Of course, I revel in war
> > >stories > such as your own, told by veterans who have proudly acquired a large
> > >> collection of metal plates, especially when they contain the eloquence and
> > >> wit that I associate with your own cherished murmurings.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Well I can see how impressed your frosh would be with "We permed the shit out
> > >of that Cplan"  or "Boy you should of seen them scramble when Berman read 20
> > >point block that Korcok wrote on COnditionality bad"
> > >
> > > > No doubt, MSU's octas
> > >strategy of sticking with a CP that was being
> > >> straight turned proved somewhat costly for them (3-0 decision against).
> > >
> > >Yeah, but at least it wasn't anarchy in the double octo.  I guess
> > >conditionality must have picked up a ballot.  OR was trice too fast for you in
> > >the 1ar.  By the way, why not kickout of the cpln since you knew you were going
> > >to drop a disad at the bottom of the cpln.  Hell it was conditional.  Or maybe
> > >you....
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Sean, if your opinion was sufficient to constitute a "CEDA consensus," then
> > >> I would've been doomed to spend my entire college career talking funny and
> > >> wearing a dumbass pony tail.
> > >
> > >
> > >Ah yes Arthur Fonzarelli.  IF you had a leather jacket and Berman was named
> > >Chachi, I would take you down to Al's for a burger and a soft seat to make up
> > >for the ass  beating you just got, or the one I gave you a few years ago,
> > >or the
> > >one Trice and Eric gave you, or the one Florida State Gave you, or the one.....
> > >
> > >
> > >All my love. > >  - D > > P.S. - this is fun
> > >>
> > >
> > >Of course it is fun, and like debate, everyone is laughing at you.
> > >
> > >Sean
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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