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Re: What I believe in...



Sure...I wouldn't wish anyone not to debate on Monday. As far as who 
deserves it I don't know why YOU are qualified to make this claim. I 
guess I missed the CEDA executive council meeting where you were 
appointed the person in charge of who breaks at nationals and who makes 
it to which rounds. I don't think that you are very popular though. You 
should probably not tell anyone else that you were in charge of this. 
The people that didn't do as well as they would like at nationals might 
be pissed. I do think that I will sleep better at night knowing that you 
did it to me though. I hope that all of CEDA appreciates your diligence.



> You may wish that I was in the federal building in Ok City when I say this
> but I know one of the critics who voted against you, and frankly that
> person does a number of things that makes that person a good critic.  No.1
> That person has no pre-conceived notion and No.2 That person votes on
> arguments in the round.


I don't have anything against the critics that "judged" us in that round. 
Frankly, I am sure they are nice people who I wouldn't mind drinking with 
at some other time. I think your lack of consistency in logic is 
interesting but I will point that out later AND you are not telling the 
truth either...or maybe you just misunderstand what a preconcieved notion 
is. The person you are refering to couldn't have been genetically 
programed from birth to be more anti-thetical to our model of debate.


> No, that person didn't win the NDT last year, but is still more qulified
> than many. Those two statements above qualify that person to judge just
> about any time.


Oh that qualifies them...the person is more qulified than most. Well...I 
just won't post anymore...I apologize.



> I have some hesitancy in  posting this b/c I know you are expressing your
> bummed-ness but I don't want silence to enforce an idea that Matt and Pat
> didn't deserve to debate on Monday.  They did. I felt all year long they
> deserved it.  I don't want to get yelled at for it, though.
> There is no cure for people thinking that there are bad decisions, ever.
> (and besides, just to get everyone all pissed off at me--if you had
> debated in other regions than the midwest maybe at least one of the other
> critics would have been familiar with you.  I know critic that I'm am
> mentioning above would have liked to have known who the hell you were, and
> had judged Pat and Matt many times and was familiar with the concept that
> they were good--sometimes all of the elements involved in a national
> championship aren't there--not competing in all of the very strong regions
> of the country may have been an error)


Hmm...you mean the critic that has no preconcieved notions...the critic 
who is inherently fair...the critic that is more qualified than 
most...would have been swayed had the person seen us before...wow. That 
is consistent logic on display.


> Now, we can go all round the mulberry bush on whether thats right or wrong
> and what that has to do with the round, but I think we all know that that
> would miss the point.  The point is, is everyone in the country familiar
> with you?  Is it a national championship run, or were you just good
> enough, but lost to a team that was `more national' (whatever the hell
> that means).  I know you're good, I heard many great things about
> you--yet still only saw one speech in your career (amazingly it was in
> doubles at Nats)---who am I subconciously more likely to vote for? 


I hope you really don't believe that that is what the national 
championship is all about. If you do...may God have mercy on your soul.



> I know that I am opening up a Pandora's box, I just don't think in terms
> of that round, that in your career, all of your bases had been covered.
> So shoot me.

Shoot you. Militaristic language is what cost us the round. Obviously your 
fair minded colleague was incorrect...rejection of our case didn't create 
a world of peace and tranquility where all people could sing songs and do 
dances and live in harmony with one another. Pity.
 


> I'm out of town for a week, so be gentle.


Have a nice time...I will miss you.

Greg




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